WFC9 outlaw DR rules

[sso0009]

world ford rules. looks like plenty of 7 second passes

[Eric LaFerriere]

How many people think these type of rules will hurt car count .....???

Not to many 7.50 drag radial cars out there to compete with only 1 or 2 cars that can ...

[mrk818]

this should be a good show, i will be there !

[331cobra]

How many people think these type of rules will hurt car count .....???

Not to many 7.50 drag radial cars out there to compete with only 1 or 2 cars that can ...


I agree 100%. I was hoping they would have a DR class at WFC this year and I fully intended to go.......but after seeing the rules it kinda makes you wonder why bother.

If they would have made rules somewhere between FF & NMRA dr rules I think it would have been a huge turnout........hopefully I'm wrong and the turnout will be great.

[sam sso2077]

Where are the rules? I looked on worldfordchallenge.com sunday and didn't see them. thanks.

[D1-R Stocker]

I think they look like this:

Anything on a DR with no wheelie bars.

It will make alot of people rethink their plans.

[sso0009]

WFC9 drag radial rules SSO car w/ drag radials and no wheelie bars. that sums it up.






outlaw radial trim 5.19@145mph 1/8mile

[mpk1996]

I was thinking the same thing. they don't even offer a weight pen/break for diff combos. don't think my F1R inline headed car will compete with a 400 in, yates headed, F3 car at the same weight. too bad since it seems like it could be an awesome event

[yellow50]

this is a sso class with DR's hell it allows 106 turbos, twin turbos, or any
size blower you can find. welcome to the new freak show.:eek: and I
talked with Robert thur. about my car for this class and he informed me
the wheelie bars are going to be made legal. on the car count I think if
it hurts anything its going to be sso, I look for some of them to cross over
to this class. I could be way off here but think about it.

[Blown89lx]

they should keep the wheelie bars out of the class just like orlando

[bkezstreet]

I don't think it is going to hurt SSO very much. How many are actually running stock suspension in SSO. The wheelie bars should stay out just like Outlaw EZ, Limited Street, and Outlaw Radial everywhere else. Should be an awesome race.

[yellow50]

^^^ ladder bars are legal at wfc9^^^^

[bkezstreet]

My bad. I thought it said stock suspension required. Oh well, thats the first outlaw radial race I've ever heard of that allows ladder bars.

[Injected65]

Even though it says permitted mext to the ladder bars I would be very suprised if thats not a typo. It lists the ladder bars and track locator under items prohibited as well as states stock suspension only several times within the rules and class description. It also lists that wheelie bars are not permitted. This is all an assumption until someone gets off their ass and corrects all of the typos and other copy and paste errors that they got when shopping for rules from multiple sources ;)

Chris

[yellow50]

I agree with you chris, I was confussed on the rules, so I called and talked
with them about the ladder bars, I was told they were legal and that the
wheelie bars was going to be changed. we will just have to wait and see.

[TA@TCI]

Car Count?:(

~TA
tony@tciauto.com

[Kwik92GT]

Car Count?:(

~TA
tony@tciauto.com
Will most likely SUCK, if they allow ladder bars.

They have the possibility of having 20-40 cars with all of the NMRA/FFW DR and even the Outlaw style stock suspension DR cars running around. I'm not sure how many of these guys would want to drive out there to possibly have to race a SSO car with a set of 315 Mickey's and a 106mm turbo strapped on?:confused:

[mpk1996]

just remember, the sso guys have a lot of time setting up there cars (ie suspension) for the slicks. its not just as easy as putting on a set of radials and running 200mph. i am not sure that there will be a lot of crossover. most of the guys running FFW/NMRA will do well. they are going to have a hard time with a few of the guys that have a dedicated outlaw dr car. should be fun anyway.

[n8secstangg]

i like the idea of outlaw drag radial but stock type suspension...no ladder bars or coilovers, i think it will start to ruin this class if we start getting that wild..

chad

[yellow50]

I see the rules have been updated for the DR class. ladder bars and
wheelie bars allowed. should see some very fast DR cars

[n8secstangg]

well maybe i wont be running wfc...im not bringing my stock suspension car to a ladder bar car race....who is the dumba$$ that came up with the idea of allowing ladder bars in a class that has been stock suspension based since its inception...idiots!!!

chad

[Injected65]

well maybe i wont be running wfc...im not bringing my stock suspension car to a ladder bar car race....who is the dumba$$ that came up with the idea of allowing ladder bars in a class that has been stock suspension based since its inception...idiots!!!

chad


Its the same dumbass that doesn't realize that they just cut their field in half with that rule. 2 other friends and I have decided that its not worth the trouble to run if they are going to allow in a SSO car with a tire change.

Chris

[mack e nm]

Here is a link to the WFC9 "outlaw drag radial" rules.

http://www.worldfordchallenge.com/class.phtml?c=outlawdrag


There is NO comparison between WFC9 and NMRA Drag Radial rules, except both run on radials. But it would be nice to win $5,000.

Oh well, I be there, with a NMRA Drag Radial legal car that can street drive for 30 miles, for Wild Street and have some FUN. :cool: ;) :D

[Injected65]

What I don't get is Orlando, FFW, NMRA, US Nationals and several others all use stock suspension and no wheelie bars (except for NMRA on the bars). Why change up what works? Its not like the car counts are likely to increase with the change.

Chris

[Pat Tracy]

Who cares that you can run stock suspension, ladder bars and wheelie bars. Just get out there and race and stop crying about that I can't compete. Do you really think you are going to make your money back racing Drag Radial. Just think what it takes to build a competive Drag Radial car and all of its up keep. Any money you do win is going right back in the car anyway. This kind of sport is more of a hobby that a career. If people do show up with a SSO car with a F3's, 106mm or twin turbos on them the tire is still going to be a limiting factor. But if a crew has spent time testing with that kind of car then yes it will probably be like taking a knife to a gun fight.

Just my opinion,

[Injected65]

The problem is with cars going into the mid 7's, its going to cost at least $1000-1500 (for me at least) to make my way out there, run 3-4 times and pack up and go home and that's if there is no parts breakage. I don't know too many people that will spend that kind of money just to race for fun. I can race for fun only going a hour south most any weekend. If someone is going to spend that kind of coin, then its not out of line to want to have at least a slim chance of bringing home some cash or getting some media coverage.

[sso0009]

if there is a 32 car feild they are paying from 2nd round to the finals. and also the rules state that most of the stock floor must be in place. backhalf cars not allowed

[Injected65]

New rules today. Tire changes for the ladderbar cars and no 315 M/T. This will be interesting.

http://www.worldfordchallenge.com/class.phtml?c=outlawdrag

Chris

[mack e nm]

New rules today. Tire changes for the ladderbar cars and no 315 M/T. This will be interesting.

http://www.worldfordchallenge.com/class.phtml?c=outlawdrag

Chris


I copied the revisions below.
It says 315-60-15 steet compound isn't that what MT ET Street Radials are? No, it does not specifically callout MT. :confused:
Still learning about the differences in the different radial tires.

"TIRES
DOT Radial tires required on rear of vehicle.

Maximum Rear Tire Size Allowed :
Ladder Bar Suspension - 275-60-15 any compound ( M/T, Goodyear, etc. )
Stock Style Suspension - 325-50-15 any compound ( M/T, Goodyear, etc. )
Stock Style Suspension - 315-60-15 street compound ( BFG, Nitto, etc. )"

[Injected65]

By street compound they mean a tire with a tread wear rating I assume. That basically means no M/T, Goodyear, etc...

Chris

[yellow50]

congrats to the wolfe team:D for there win at wfc9 in DR. just wanted
to say that in advance. with the LB cars limited to a 275, wfc just took
out the only chance to stop him. I think the idea was to have some SSO
guys that cant run the 7.3x (with manny) to maybe run OUTLAW drag radial
and beens there wasnt even a DR class last year and the year before that
car count sucked. with rules to work for NMRA and FUNFORD. I really dont
care about the 275 rule. Ill go and race to have fun. but to those that cry
about the LB (sso) cars. you still have to deal with the wolfe guys. and they
have been faster than most sso cars on slicks. good luck to everyone and
Ill see ya there.

[Injected65]

Wolfe runs on a 315 tire though. My guess is that they will put on the 325 MT's but the 325 is still a far cry from a 315 MT. My guess is you will see the quickest et at around 7.70 with a consistant 7.90 taking home the money.

Chris

[n8secstangg]

we can run 7.90's maybe 7.80's on a 325....i think wolfe can run low 70's on a 325 tire...

[sso0009]

I have had 1.30 60ft time on the 325 m/t so I will say there will definitly 7.60-7.70 passes @185+


outlaw trim 7.96@180

[n8secstangg]

hey mauro....wanna come help tune our suspension?...lol...i would love to see how fast our car is with 1.30 60's...

[331cobra]

I saw BB&T go a 1.31 60' time and a 5.01 @ 150 in an ORSCA 1/8th mile event at the end of 04 in Huntsville(on 325's) . This was quicker than their 1/8th mile time when they went 7.70 @ 189 in Orlando in 04. I think they went 5.04 on the 7.70 pass(315's).

[traviz02]

i believe there will be a very familiar looking car there sucking in LOTS of air that will make everyone say---who was that??????? who could it be?????

[Jim408]

i believe there will be a very familiar looking car there sucking in LOTS of air that will make everyone say---who was that??????? who could it be?????

Loose lips sink ships.............. :cool:

[traviz02]

aint no ships sinking here:) i know nothing:confused:

[forcefed88]

Didn't Wolfe have the quickest car at the US Nats? Did he win? Where does it say in the rules that the quickest car, or the car with the most power will win a drag race, especially a Drag Radial race.

[SHOWTIME]

congrats to the wolfe team:D for there win at wfc9 in DR. just wanted
to say that in advance. with the LB cars limited to a 275, wfc just took
out the only chance to stop him. I think the idea was to have some SSO
guys that cant run the 7.3x (with manny) to maybe run OUTLAW drag radial
and beens there wasnt even a DR class last year and the year before that
car count sucked. with rules to work for NMRA and FUNFORD. I really dont
care about the 275 rule. Ill go and race to have fun. but to those that cry
about the LB (sso) cars. you still have to deal with the wolfe guys. and they
have been faster than most sso cars on slicks. good luck to everyone and
Ill see ya there.
Ask yourself how many times in a radial tire race #1 qualifer has won the race. With a confidence level like this I hope you are not building a car.

[forcefed88]

If John K is racing WFC nobody else should even bother going.:D

[331cobra]

Yea right.........after the test session I had today I might not even go to Bradenton, let alone WFC!! Made 5 1/8th mile hits and didn't even get in the 5's!:mad:

[forcefed88]

4.99 huh?

[331cobra]

I wish!!

I should have put a blower on the car I guess??????

[forcefed88]

Yeah, a Vortech.