R U Ready

[chip provenza]

Well whats the report who will be ready for the Sunshine State?

[Matt@LaFerriere]

The question is....are you ready ;) Man, it's warm down here.....

[Mark@Stangcrazy.com]

Anyone else interested in getting in a pool for DR points champ?
Right now I only have 4 guys in.
If more people are interested let me know and we can figure out the details.
Right now we are looking at $150 per racer.
mark@stangcrazy.com

Thanks,

[travers]

sorry but i will have something for you all at reynolds:D

[CHRIS TUTEN]

getting closer, fingers and toes crossed on cranking it up this weekend. if it picks up from where it was in dec. we'll be in great shape:D hopefully we'll start testing next weekend.

[gnklr50]

been testing and very happy with results.....












OK, now i just woke up from my dream!

[Draggin3]

changed from 8 pt cage w/ swingouts to team z 25.5 and mini-tubs, stock spring location to coil-over, fast to BS3, msd 7520 to msd 7531, and total re-wire of the bucket. i'll show up in FLA with no passes. is that ready enough? :eek:

[travers]

changed from 8 pt cage w/ swingouts to team z 25.5 and mini-tubs, stock spring location to coil-over, fast to BS3, msd 7520 to msd 7531, and total re-wire of the bucket. i'll show up in FLA with no passes. is that ready enough? :eek:

better than some of us, i thought that was how you were supposed to show up to races:D
thats all part of the fun

[warpgt]

I will be there! Just got back from 16 hour round trip picking up the new and improved MCRP motor. This thing has 175mph written all over it!:D

[331cobra]

changed from 8 pt cage w/ swingouts to team z 25.5 and mini-tubs, stock spring location to coil-over, fast to BS3, msd 7520 to msd 7531, and total re-wire of the bucket. i'll show up in FLA with no passes. is that ready enough? :eek:


I've done the exact same thing minus the 25.5..........Everything is new from front to back, engine, converter, turbo, racepak dash & BS3, 7531, intercooler, minitubs, coilovers, wheels ect.

Hope to fire it up this weekend and start making some hits next weekend!

Is anyone else planning to go to FF orlando the week before bradenton as a test session?

[Draggin3]

better than some of us, i thought that was how you were supposed to show up to races:D
thats all part of the fun
that is how i've done it for the last 2 years, this will be the third. should run a 20 off the trailer. :eek:

[gnklr50]

that is how i've done it for the last 2 years, this will be the third. should run a 20 off the trailer. :eek:


i think you can squeeze, at least, a mid 13sec pass trace :)

[Draggin3]

i think you can squeeze, at least, a mid 13sec pass trace :)
that will be my "brake check" pass. then on to a 8.2x :D

[MV50]

Well whats the report who will be ready for the Sunshine State?

Gotta get rid of my "junk ProStar wheels" first. ;)

It will be close..:eek:

[TubingJon]

Motor will be done next week. Now if the mini tubs, rear suspension, intercooler, turbo, convertor, transmission, and everything else that goes along with it gets done I will be there. Can't wait to go 180mph with that new 88mm.

[gnklr50]

Motor will be done next week. Now if the mini tubs, rear suspension, intercooler, turbo, convertor, transmission, and everything else that goes along with it gets done I will be there. Can't wait to go 180mph with that new 88mm.


hahahah... when i saw this, i thought i wrote it.. well, except the 180mph/88mm part... :D

[warpgt]

Motor will be done next week. Now if the mini tubs, rear suspension, intercooler, turbo, convertor, transmission, and everything else that goes along with it gets done I will be there. Can't wait to go 180mph with that new 88mm.


As much as you spin the tires, I wouldn't be surprised if we seen 220mph out of that 88mm bucket!:D :D

[CHRIS TUTEN]

oh yeah, just got heads and intake back, new water tank will be here in a few minutes:D as long as the intake fits this time she'll be running sat evening. i looked for that mph rating on my motor too, it didnt have one? but it did say " bradenton winner" on it:D lol

[D1-R Stocker]

As much as you spin the tires, I wouldn't be surprised if we seen 220mph out of that 88mm bucket!:D :D

At 3450 I don't think it can spin the tires. Are BFG's even load rated for that?

[Dave Zimmerman]

Just bought Shobers car and droped off 2 blocks at MCRP ordered my F1 and my 88 yesterday with Mikey's new BIG high ports we should be able to make some power!

[sso0009]

hopefully shaking the car down the weekend before Bradenton.


Outlaw DR 25.5 be done soon
Procharged 400ci 180mph plus
Thanks to Steen Racing

[timneagroup]

Well, I need to get my car out of storage, de-winterize it and send the turbo out. Plus I need to get a 2nd job to cover the gas money to Fl. Still not sure if I am going to go.....:confused:

[Matt@LaFerriere]

It will be close..


Hopefully not as close as last year. We don't have to stop in P.A. on the way down to get the chassis tagged this year. :eek:

[swilldup]

Just bought Shobers car and droped off 2 blocks at MCRP ordered my F1 and my 88 yesterday with Mikey's new BIG high ports we should be able to make some power!uh..oh....
:)

[ChrisEvans]

I said I did'nt have to change much on my car...just straighten out the motor & small stuff-WOW-I can't beleive how that whole"snowball effect"works.
I gotta get some pics of my new(revamped)car up..Hey Chip-Harry is a helluva welder....DAMN!:D I gotta make it-so I can get my sticker from Tim:eek:

[snakehorse1]

Just bought Shobers car and droped off 2 blocks at MCRP ordered my F1 and my 88 yesterday with Mikey's new BIG high ports we should be able to make some power!


Damn-it Dave, are you bluff-n? :confused: :eek:

You know how bad all of us wanted to see that car run this class!!

Quit teasing - :D ....................:confused:

[MV50]

Hopefully not as close as last year. We don't have to stop in P.A. on the way down to get the chassis tagged this year. :eek:

Gee I don't remember that part Matt....:D ;)

[D1-R Stocker]

I gotta make it-so I can get my sticker from Tim:eek:

You have to have a goal Chris. Myself, the 175mph sticker.:D

[sso0009]

mph= horsepwer
traction= ET
combine both there will be some bad a-- competition
will it be a blower or turbo time will tell

[Joe Shober1]

Damn-it Dave, are you bluff-n? :confused: :eek:

You know how bad all of us wanted to see that car run this class!!

Quit teasing - :D ....................:confused:

Dave isn's bluff-n we wiull all get a chance to see the car run. I'm taking the car to Dave's shop on Sat. I will have some new pictures to prove its going to dave's.

This should be fun I always wanted to WORK on a Turbo car.

[Sean Knighton]

I'm working working working, mini-tubs, rear end rethink, motor work, electronics, still need to get licensed. Might try to paint my tub too.
Thanks to everyone that's helped.

[gnklr50]

im getting closer... things are looking up now :)

[Jay Allen]

Just bought Shobers car and droped off 2 blocks at MCRP ordered my F1 and my 88 yesterday with Mikey's new BIG high ports we should be able to make some power!
Yep.

I cannot wait.

Its gonna be fun.

[travers]

funny how many cars run nmra d/r vs. ffw. its like a 3-1 ratio. i like going to races with more than 3 cars in a class.
see you guys at reynolds, good luck to everyone going to bradenton, sounds like a lot of nice cars and good competition i will be missing out on

[timneagroup]

Yep.

I cannot wait.

Its gonna be fun.


Hey Jay, not to bust your chops or anything, but is this the year and the car that will go 7's in NMRA trim?

[chip provenza]

Trouble-maker.

[timneagroup]

What? This board has been boring and I just thought I would dust off an old thread that generated a lot of activity.

[Dave Zimmerman]

I think your just board Tim, but we will see;)

[331cobra]

Wait a minuite now.......the 7 second prediction was made before the 88mm was legal!!

[timneagroup]

It will still be damn near impossible with an 88. The tire and HP is the limitation. This seems to be more possible than the 85mm. We seen the blower cars...8.20...it would take a lot to get the 7.99.

I'm going to have to say 2006 will not see a 7 second run.

Dave, your right I'm bored...i hate this cold weather.

[Dave Zimmerman]

It will still be damn near impossible
OOOHHHHH so you admit that it could be possible:D

[331cobra]

Come on now Tim, dont be such a pesimist.:D

Chip went 8.20 at 100lbs over weight. He also only had 1.389 60' time. Put him at legal weight & give him a 1.30 60' time and he runs 8.0's easy. If he finds 2-3 more mph worth of hp then he is right there. Is it possible......sure. Will it happen.....probably not........with a blower anyway.:D

[timneagroup]

I think its might be possible if you ran slicks and an 88mm. on a radial it will be a 1 in a million chance.

If everyone was running 1.50 60fts and you were able to invent some new suspension that would allow you to go 1.30's it might be possible, but this class is already mature....and running in the 1.30's. Outlaw cars only run in the 1.20's. I think Manny told me that he went 1.25 with his new suspension and they were happy with that. The heavy weight of the blower and turbo combo's won't allow for stellar 60's.

I just don't see what you plan to do that everyone else hasn't already tried or is trying?

[SSO2191]

I don't see a 7 second pass happening this year but I do think there will be a lot more 20's. Me hopefully being one of them. I still have to build my motor this weekend and reassemble everything from the mock up. I should have it 100% race ready in two weeks. I would have been finished by now but I had to work on Chip's bucket for ever :D . I will definitely be in Florida.......with my Vortech:eek: I sure am sick of melting lead!!!
Good luck to everyone else.

[Dave Zimmerman]

it will be a 1 in a million chance.


So you admit there's a chance:D

[travers]

either you all are being very modest, i am an idiot, or i am going to do a lot better than i was thinking with my little baby 2v. 3 years ago the other 2v one ran 8.60's at 165 with a little 76mm. 3 years ago
something does not sound right here, i'm calling bluff on alot of you:D

[ChrisEvans]

The 7-second timeslip will NOT happen-Not on a 325 BFG atleast(Like Chris T.said-he likes the 325-BFG because it gives everyone a chance(limited traction)).....people were talking about that"D/R points fund" well Iam gonna start my own-I'll hand someone a $100-cash if they run a 7 in "D/R trim" @ an NMRA event this year,anyone who knows me-knows Iam a"stingy"bastard w/my money!!!!!!!!:D :eek: So this is a BIG stretch for me! He Tim(or anyone else)-wanna put up some cash-to the person who can lay it down???
I'd love to see it!:)
You know a"Little"birdie did tell me-178mph w/the 88?:rolleyes:

[HOP]

either you all are being very modest, i am an idiot, or i am going to do a lot better than i was thinking with my little baby 2v. 3 years ago the other 2v one ran 8.60's at 165 with a little 76mm. 3 years ago
something does not sound right here, i'm calling bluff on alot of you:D

I would like to know who/where and when did this happen 3years ago in NMRA trim with a 2-valve!

[chip provenza]

7's Will not happen in 06.Even if I find 2-3 more mph it wont be enough.Look at phil and mario went 7.9's at 179 plus on a mickey.I think you can go high 0's on a perfect run,and thats finding more power then I make now.

[chip provenza]

Yea Matt you did a bad ass job on my "bucket" but damn it looks gooood.

[autophile]

I would like to know who/where and when did this happen 3years ago in NMRA trim with a 2-valve!


This is True...Chris Crown out of florida was running 8.60's ( i think it may have even gone into the 8.50's with a 2v motor and 76mm turbo. I believe Fox Lake did the engine work on it..job tuned it.. it was a bad ass ride...

[Kwik92GT]

CLICK HERE (http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/features/0401mm_hp/) for info on that 2-valver.

[travers]

I would like to know who/where and when did this happen 3years ago in NMRA trim with a 2-valve!

chris crown, just do a search, fox lake built a stroker 4.6 2v, the car still had an alternator, weighed a ton and was tuned by Job. i don't expect my car to do great off the go because i will be driving but i know it will make much more power than that one did.

it was in several magazines but you will find it easy in a search on the net and it was nmra legal

that really was not my point, i just think with the numbers you all ran last year i know with how smart you all are you will pick up a ton. it was intended as a compliment to you all.

i think like this, if Clemmons ran some 8.20's last year and built a new car, i really think with him and the Z team they will get a 7 second car out of it with a lot of hard work but it will be done, why else would he by a new car and go through all that work, i think its to pick up more than a tenth

[travers]

did not see you guys already put up links, thanks
but anyway, my car/motor/88mm vs 76 mm/and Job tunning i am just really excited about this year. my car is not together yet and i know that makes a difference but my motor last year the heads flowed a ton more than that car and now its a insane difference, i am not claiming to win a race or anything. but i feel i will be competitive IF IF i can do my part and learn how to drive it well.
i really cannot wait to see how my car runs and what it runs, i have maxed out just about all of my assets to get the best of everything to run the number

well, see you all at the track, hopefully this year i will not see as many parachutes opening in front of me:D

[timneagroup]

heres a couple pieces of info:

1.) Chris Crown was using a FFW legal turbo...76/88...not legal in NMRA. That was Dave's question

2.) Phil Clemmons car is not NMRA legal, and he is not planning to run NMRA.

3.) No one will run a 7 in NMRA trim at an NMRA event in 2006.

Once again...like I said in 2005. If someone thinks they can lay down a 7 sec pass...I will be the first to line up against them.

[travers]

heres a couple pieces of info:

1.) Chris Crown was using a FFW legal turbo...76/88...not legal in NMRA. That was Dave's question

2.) Phil Clemmons car is not NMRA legal, and he is not planning to run NMRA.

3.) No one will run a 7 in NMRA trim at an NMRA event in 2006.

Once again...like I said in 2005. If someone thinks they can lay down a 7 sec pass...I will be the first to line up against them.


dude, i was not aware of #2 on your list and i don't expect me to be anywhere near 7's, i just thought someone else would for sure. i'm no dummy, well at least not completely, i have no thoughts that just because my motor and numbers stack up better on paper that my car will run faster, i really think someone will run that 7 though, too many cars with too good of guys involved not too, just wish i was one that had a chance to run a 7 but i choose to keep the little 4.6 2v and am hoping for consistantcy this year. along with not killing too many parts or the car

sure will be a fun year

[Smav347]

Oh man. This season going to be sooooo awesome..... I don't know how you guys get ready in time! Hell, I'm not even racing and I'm looking forward to next year. Good luck to all, from the NMRA and Race Pages!

[Bill Wolf]

I had a feeling someone was going to bring up that 7 second $#!* again . It 's got to be the #1 February topic of all time .

[Matt@LaFerriere]

I just ran a "7" tonight....it took me 7 minutes to get home from work......:p

[blowngts]

I think there is going to be a 6 second pass...why stop at the 7's...

[lance]

Why is Phill's new car not legal:confused:

Chris's car was 3400#plus and it could now run a ture 88mm so he would make even more power :eek:

Chip might just go a 8.0:rolleyes:

[Dave Zimmerman]

heres a piece of info:


2.) Phil Clemmons car is not NMRA legal, and he is not planning to run NMRA.




R U Sure Tim? Now I don't really have all of the insider info you have but I am sure the car is 100% NMRA legal, and the last time I talked to Phil he did say he would run some NMRA races, but that was Saturday things could have changed since then:p

[timneagroup]

The car may be legal, but the blower and heads he was talking about using in FFW are not NMRA legal. I'm not Phil, but he told me that he was planning to run the full FFW schedule and if he were to run some NMRA stuff that he would run outlaw.

[Dave Zimmerman]

Phill still has his NMRA engine and Is having a FFW engine being built, yes he intends on running a full FFW schedule but I wouldnt count him out on a couple of NMRA races!

[timneagroup]

well, in that case 7's are certainly possible if Phil is coming with his new car. He sound easily be able to shave 3 tenths with a new chassis.

(Sorry to use you as an example Phil.)

[Sean Knighton]

The 7 sec. subject will be more compelling after the run happens, and by whoever makes it happen. Of course in NMRA trim. :)

[Dave Zimmerman]

well, in that case 7's are certainly possible if Phil is coming with his new car. He sound easily be able to shave 3 tenths with a new chassis.

(Sorry to use you as an example Phil.)

WOW Tim all I said was dont count Phil out for the NMRA nothing about him running a 7!!!

[timneagroup]

This discussion is based on a 7sec pass. The post before yours addressed Phil running a 7 with his new car. I was simply pointing out that 3-tenths new car or not is impossible.

[Philip Clemmons]

well, in that case 7's are certainly possible if Phil is coming with his new car. He sound easily be able to shave 3 tenths with a new chassis.

(Sorry to use you as an example Phil.)


Tim,

If you saw my new TEAM Z ride, you would know how right that statement is!:eek:

For the record, my car is NMRA legal, and I am building two motors, and still have my F1R....................Time will tell how many races I can make..........

[Dave Zimmerman]

Tim,

If you saw my new TEAM Z ride, you would know how right that statement is!:eek:

For the record, my car is NMRA legal, and I am building two motors, and still have my F1R....................Time will tell how many races I can make..........

Like I said I dont have all the insider info Tim has:D

[gnklr50]

all this talk of 7sec timeslips makes me want to switch to real street :eek: :eek: :eek:

[timneagroup]

Sorry for the previous post, I can see that my Phil Clemmons information is tainted. Please accept my apologies.

[Mrcoop]

Just bought Shobers car and droped off 2 blocks at MCRP ordered my F1 and my 88 yesterday with Mikey's new BIG high ports we should be able to make some power!



WOW! I cant wait to see that bucket run!

[Dave Zimmerman]

Sorry for the previous post, I can see that my Phil Clemmons information is tainted. Please accept my apologies.

Tim you should know better than to sperad tainted info:D

[Mrcoop]

Dave, when are you planning to run this car? Mike just told me about it yesterday, just wondering. That is an awesome plan!

[Dave Zimmerman]

Well we're getting allot of sponsors onboard now and hope to be testing as soon as the car is repainted and a few dings are fixed! hopefully soon!

[Mrcoop]

Well good luck with it, talk to ya soon.

[radialcoupe]

[QUOTE=timneagroup]This discussion is based on a 7sec pass.QUOTE]

actually i thought the discussion was about who was ready for florida. but what do i know. :D

[BK50]

[QUOTE=timneagroup]This discussion is based on a 7sec pass.QUOTE]

actually i thought the discussion was about who was ready for florida. but what do i know. :D

Chris its feb. brother...;) Its getting close to the start of this madness again and the pot needs a little stirin...:D


Bill

[Joe Shober1]

Well we're getting allot of sponsors onboard now and hope to be testing as soon as the car is repainted and a few dings are fixed! hopefully soon!

A few DINGS that son of a B!t$h is flat on one side. :eek:

[Jay Allen]

Hey Jay, not to bust your chops or anything, but is this the year and the car that will go 7's in NMRA trim?
I was just telling Dave today that just when you think you have seen it all.......The pinacle of stupidity.......This post comes along.

Not that this means a hole hell of a lot to anyone here, but my kids swim at U of M every night. The olympian Michael Phelps has a very big presence at the pool. He wears a shirt quite often that says:

"The guy who says it cannot be done is getting passed by a guy who is doing it. Now, what did you say"?

Instead of worrying what another racer might or might not do, or how fast another guy might run, or how fast some message board thinks the class will go, why don't you concentrate on your own rig. Go as quick as you can, safely. If its fast enough to win, then you have done a good job. If you don't win, then you have to work harder. If you do the same things as everyone else does, then guess what? You'll run the same. Think outside the box. Think "How can I" vs "It cannot be done".

Nothing is impossible, just some things are more improbable.

[Joe Shober1]

I was just telling Dave today that just when you think you have seen it all.......The pinacle of stupidity.......This post comes along.

Not that this means a hole hell of a lot to anyone here, but my kids swim at U of M every night. The olympian Michael Phelps has a very big presence at the pool. He wears a shirt quite often that says:

"The guy who says it cannot be done is getting passed by a guy who is doing it. Now, what did you say"?

Instead of worrying what another racer might or might not do, or how fast another guy might run, or how fast some message board thinks the class will go, why don't you concentrate on your own rig. Go as quick as you can, safely. If its fast enough to win, then you have done a good job. If you don't win, then you have to work harder. If you do the same things as everyone else does, then guess what? You'll run the same. Think outside the box. Think "How can I" vs "It cannot be done".

Nothing is impossible, just some things are more improbable.


That was a great post and its something we have been talking about at the shop. This class has only been around for 4 years or so it is just getting started. Look at What greg Anderson did in Pro Stock, that class has been around for 30 years and he has been able to pick up a ton in the last few years. It wasn't log ago that a 6.8XX was good, now you have to run a 6.6XX at over 208 on the good tracks and that is only in the last few years so if they can find that much power and speed in a 6 sec car we can find 2 teens in an 8 sec car.

Oh, and about the tire being the limit, theres always a limit in drag racing, but people go faster every year in every class hell look at the 10.5 Outlaw stuff. Who thought you had enough tire to go 6.80's !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I think we have plenty of tire its just making it work better with what we have. I think we have the ability to make much more power too, we have been working at the shop on a set of High ports that move 40 more CFM then Trace's heads and Trace almost went 173 on those heads. I know that when we worked Trace's heads last year and picked them up about 8-10 CFM it made such a big improvement that he had problems managing the power so can you imagine 40 CFM???

Anyway this should be fun, good luck to everyone getting there cars done for Florida.

Joe Shober

[timneagroup]

Facts are facts:

2004 ET Record - 8.27
2005 ET record - 8.24

7's will not happen in 2006.

[NMRA Jason]

I think someone running an 88 may accomplish it. It will have to be at Bradenton, Reynolds, or Bowling Green, because the track won't be there for the rest of the events due to the heat.

But I think it'll happen. Quite possibly by someone you might not expect to do it.

[timneagroup]

how do you think it is possible?

60ft?
MPH?

Please explain with detail.

[lance]

how about a 1.30 60ft and say a 175 or 176 mph should happen with a 88mm as it should make 1500 plus HP :confused:

[NMRA Jason]

If someone can go 173 or 174, it's entirely possible. You guys have proven that you can hang with the MPH required, now you've gotta refine what's already there. I think the guy that figures it out will have no problem going 7.90's....

It might even be you that I was thinking about, Big Johnston...how BIG are ya? :)

I love offseason smack...

[travers]

how do you think it is possible?

60ft?
MPH?

Please explain with detail.

if i would have been smart and built the 5.4 4v that i was told to i think i would have had the car to do it, maybe not the skills but that would change.

guess this is all b.s. though, we can talk about it all day

[331cobra]

how about a 1.30 60ft and say a 175 or 176 mph should happen with a 88mm as it should make 1500 plus HP :confused:


I think that is exactly what it would take to ge there......1.30 60' and 175+ mph.

The only problem is getting a 3450lb car to 60' a 1.30:confused:

Hell, at memphis Wade was only running 7.90's. I think he weighed 3400lbs.
His incrementals were like 1.32 60', 5.23 @ 142 1/8 mile & high 7.90's @ 180.
We dynoed this car a few days before the race, it made nearly 1400 to the tires. He was also running 315 mickeys.

[Dave Zimmerman]

I really don't care what the record was, is or will be! I just want to race!
We have some new suspension products we want to test and the best feed back I can get is having my own A$$ in the drivers seat!!! It's been Great working with all the guys who run my parts and will continue to do so, but I truly want to push the envelope as far as I can! I would be a Fool to say it can't be done especially if I don't really know! And anyone who Say's there isn't a ton of room for improvement in the first 1/8 mile is dead wrong! And Tim if I limit myself to what someone else has done in the past, I'll NEVER do anything better, if I say a 1.34 60' is good enough and don't try anything else I'll never go faster and I'll never be able to make my customers faster, end of story!

[Dave Zimmerman]

Tim Huspan regulary runs 1.28 at 3380

[331cobra]

Tim Huspan regulary runs 1.28 at 3380


If he is running that on a 325 bfg thats incredible. Hell, thats even awesome on a mickey.:eek:

[timneagroup]

yeah, Tim did this on a mickey. Everyone runs low 1.30's on a M/T.

Has anyone been a 1.30 on a BFG 325?

[gnklr50]

we went 1.28 60ft with Josh Williams car at a test n tune after the season ended.. this was at 3150 (ysi/cooler), C4 trans, and wheelie bars... this was on a 325/50/15 BFG!

[Dave Zimmerman]

Your right Tim it can't be done! I have seen several low 1.30 passes on BFG's on the rear tires though!

And with Tim's car that was a Micky, we set up his suspension at my shop and never touched it again! meaning if we worked on it it could get much better! But Tim was chasing converter gremlins and other issues all year!

I also Know what Shobers car 60' with wore out slicks and NO tuning! Again think if we only knew what we were doing and could tune a chassis, or we had access to equipment, and tools, and could fabricate, had the financial resources(not a VISA card) what could be done!

[Dave Zimmerman]

we went 1.28 60ft with Josh Williams car at a test n tune after the season ended.. this was at 3150 (ysi/cooler), C4 trans, and wheelie bars... this was on a 325/50/15 BFG!

I'm sure the C4 had allot to do with that! But it also showes if you know what your doing the BFG WILL take the power!!

[gnklr50]

I'm sure the C4 had allot to do with that! But it also showes if you know what your doing the BFG WILL take the power!!

i agree with you to a point.. we had a 2.20 first gear in that car and limited power.. but i worked on the launch curve and played with shocks, struts, and spring rates to get it to work like that.. I agree with you that it CAN be done..

[Cope]

I was just telling Dave today that just when you think you have seen it all.......The pinacle of stupidity.......This post comes along.


Jay,

When i read tim's post i didn't think there was anything stupid about it. i think you are a little out of line with that comment!

Since we are on the "7" subject, are you guys going to do it or not. Because last year it was going to happen for sure now a year later and 40CFM more it looks like you guys say yes and no.

So which is it YES OR NO.

later

[TA@TCI]

In the right conditions....personally, I think that it is possible.

~TA
tony@tciauto.com

[Dave Zimmerman]

Jay,

When i read tim's post i didn't think there was anything stupid about it. i think you are a little out of line with that comment!

Since we are on the "7" subject, are you guys going to do it or not. Because last year it was going to happen for sure now a year later and 40CFM more it looks like you guys say yes and no.

So which is it YES OR NO.

later

Does it matter? last time you were here you were saying how you guy's had something for everyone;)

In the right conditions....personally, I think that it is possible.

~TA
tony@tciauto.com

Actually quite a few people think the same thing

[SSO2191]

In theory anything is possible! Until someone does it or even gets close to it, ....Than talk about it! No one has even been in the teens yet! let alone in the 0's!
Anyone with any brains will start with what works first than refine from there. If you go out and try to reinvent the wheel than all you have is a bunch of excuses. I have seen it happen in outlaw.
Let's just try to make our cars faster and go from there. If it happens than great, if not keep trying. I guess nothing is impossible but this is just improbable.
I think people should try to go in the teens first and take it little by little. If not I will just do what Chris Tuten did and let everyone beat themselves (that man is a smart racer) There have been cars in the 30's and 20' for the last two years and I don't think he even hit the 50's until after mid season. Just goes to show that fastest cars don't always win either.

[timneagroup]

we went 1.28 60ft with Josh Williams car at a test n tune after the season ended.. this was at 3150 (ysi/cooler), C4 trans, and wheelie bars... this was on a 325/50/15 BFG!

Bob,

this is the exception. A light-weight car can 60-foot. I figured a nitrous guy would chim in. My question is do you think that the ysi combo can go 175mph.

Imagine a 3300+ Blower car or a 3450+ turbo car running a high 1.2X 60-foot. It can't happen on a BFG with stock suspension.

Dave,

I need to know what were talking about. The statement about Shobers car on worn out slick, what are the details?

1.) That is on slick..worn out or new...slick are different than BFG's.
2.) What was the motor combo....was it a 170+mph blower combo, or an NA combo?
3.) What was the car weight?
4.) What did the flux capacitor do when you hit 88mph?

[SSO2191]

We have always been able to get Evans car to 60' in the low 1.3's regularly. And you would not believe what he has for suspension if you looked for yourself. It is the same old street stuff that has been on there for almost 10 years. Now that his car has to weight 3300+ and it makes more power it is alot harder just to get in the 1.3's at all.

[gnklr50]

Bob,

this is the exception. A light-weight car can 60-foot. I figured a nitrous guy would chim in. My question is do you think that the ysi combo can go 175mph.

Imagine a 3300+ Blower car or a 3450+ turbo car running a high 1.2X 60-foot. It can't happen on a BFG with stock suspension.

honestly tim, if i didnt think i could go 1.2x on a BFG at 3300lbs, i wouldnt even be trying to run drag radial. I know alot of other cars are going to outpower me, but I think i can get the car to work in the first 330 ft... Again, this is how I feel... Time will only tell.

To answer your question about the YSi, I think 165-167 is about max for it.. but im going to run an X-trim, so that wont matter to me.

[timneagroup]

whats your best 60 foot on a BFG thus far?

[Cope]

Does it matter? last time you were here you were saying how you guy's had something for everyone;)


Yes it does matter because you guys type all this BS to get people fired up but never back it up!;)


Let me know WHEN you are ready because i promise we'll have something for you!!!:eek:

[SSO2191]

If anyone in the early rounds of eliminations tries to run 1.2X 60' times than you are going to be in the trailer real early. Consistancy is the key to radial racing. A couple of hail mary's are not going to cut it.

[timneagroup]

Maybe Dave Hopper and Dave Zimmerman should go on PINKS and settle this!

How many lengths do you want?

[snakehorse1]

Maybe Dave Hopper and Dave Zimmerman should go on PINKS and settle this!

How many lengths do you want?

Why Hopper when it was you Tim who decided to stir up all this stink?:rolleyes: :p

How many lengths do YOU want? :eek: :eek: :D

[BK50]

WOW....:eek: Its definately going to be an exciting year.... ;)
Now who's bringing the flux capacitor?....:p :D


Bill

[timneagroup]

I'm given out lengths!

I just asked about 7's. I never said anything about my car. You want some too? When you join the radial club let me know and i'll give you a shot.

"fastest turbo drag radial car in NMRA histroy"

[Cope]

Why Hopper when it was you Tim who decided to stir up all this stink?:rolleyes: :p

How many lengths do YOU want? :eek: :eek: :D

Why Hopper?

Because I brought it up, thats why..:)

[BK50]

Why Hopper?

Because I brought it up, thats why..:)


Trouble Maker....;) :D

Bill

[ChrisEvans]

Bob K.-I can see how you got Josh's car to sixty like that-when I had a 360/NOS motor(ran 8.70's-in 03')my car would 60ft.great(low 1.30's all the time)-when I switched to my 400 in.NOS/motor-I had a little trouble getting it too work-but it did 60ft.great(ran 8.50's)-the car was always light-& obviously lacked a little HP-& thats how I got it too work-.....Now add the weight(3325)& the F1R & my car has only been a 1.42 on BFG's & 1.36 on M/T radial(which does'nt count-we are talking BFG 60fts.)
Let's put it like this-what is the best 60ft.(on BFG)-with a blower or turbo?
I know HOP's been quick & well -Tim(but he always lets off the gas:D )

[ChrisEvans]

Maybe Iam missing something here-how much suspension stuff can you really adj.?
Rear-shocks/springs(if you have coil-over)/pinion angle/anti-roll bar(usually "set it & forget it"-if you do it right the first time:eek: /the lengths of the control arms must be within a certain length(according to rules...correct?)
Front-strut/spring rate(if you have coil-overs;) )/front-end travel
I don't know much else+usually when Iam in the staging lanes I see people"walking the track"-when they come back to their car-"typically" I see them crack-open the lap-top....NOT crawl under their cars.It does take a"base-line"to get it close-I'll agree with that-but after that-it's mostly in the(starting line)tune.

[Dave Zimmerman]

Yes it does matter because you guys type all this BS to get people fired up but never back it up!;)


Let me know WHEN you are ready because i promise we'll have something for you!!!:eek:

First I didn't type any BS so don't even go there since your the king of stiring the pot!

I posted and said I bought Shobers car and I was going to race, Tim had to be a smart a$$ and bring up the 7 second crap, All I have EVER said IS I thought it was possible end of that story if you want to talk crap that's fine COPE!

Im ready Cope stop by any time and I'll show you!:)

[Draggin3]

my best 60' is 1.33 back when i didn't have as much power. my best 60' for the 05 season was 1.36 at BG when it went 8.24.

[gnklr50]

Bob K.-I can see how you got Josh's car to sixty like that-when I had a 360/NOS motor(ran 8.70's-in 03')my car would 60ft.great(low 1.30's all the time)-when I switched to my 400 in.NOS/motor-I had a little trouble getting it too work-but it did 60ft.great(ran 8.50's)-the car was always light-& obviously lacked a little HP-& thats how I got it too work-.....Now add the weight(3325)& the F1R & my car has only been a 1.42 on BFG's & 1.36 on M/T radial(which does'nt count-we are talking BFG 60fts.)
Let's put it like this-what is the best 60ft.(on BFG)-with a blower or turbo?
I know HOP's been quick & well -Tim(but he always lets off the gas:D )
Chris..

that is the reason that Im not talking about "what I will do"... All i can do is try to come out and be competitive... after i get a few runs under my belt, then i will join the sh!t talking :)

[swilldup]

cope-dont you have some focus's to build......Dave-dont you have some mustangs to build?......

[Dave Zimmerman]

Maybe Iam missing something here-how much suspension stuff can you really adj.?
Rear-shocks/springs(if you have coil-over)/pinion angle/anti-roll bar(usually "set it & forget it"-if you do it right the first time:eek: /the lengths of the control arms must be within a certain length(according to rules...correct?)
Front-strut/spring rate(if you have coil-overs;) )/front-end travel
I don't know much else+usually when Iam in the staging lanes I see people"walking the track"-when they come back to their car-"typically" I see them crack-open the lap-top....NOT crawl under their cars.It does take a"base-line"to get it close-I'll agree with that-but after that-it's mostly in the(starting line)tune.

Real good point Chris! Think about it!! just to let you know EVERY car I have ever set up WAS NOT where the owner/driver said or thought it was. But your right it's much easier to tune your chassis with the lap top!

[ChrisEvans]

Dave,
NOT quite understanding you? I did say-"Am I misssing something?"
I have never claimed to be the "suspension master" or tune-up master but I just don't see alot of people"messing"with their suspension at the races(& I've been to alot of them)

[331cobra]

Now I'm really confused?????:confused:

[Dave Zimmerman]

Dave,
NOT quite understanding you? I did say-"Am I misssing something?"
I have never claimed to be the "suspension master" or tune-up master but I just don't see alot of people"messing"with their suspension at the races(& I've been to alot of them)

No Chris your not missing anything!! your 100% right! most people set it and forget it, and deal with track conditions with the lap top! and to be quite honest with you most people dont even want to mess with their suspension, and I'd guess it's because they think mid 1.30's is as good as it get's. All I am saying is look at other classes that dont have FAST or BIG STUFF they change gear, clutch, converter,pre load ,shock settings,weight bias, ect. looking for 1/100.

The lap top is great, but what if someone used that, and didnt just set and forget their suspension, the potential to go faster just sitting there not being taped because the lap top works so well!

I'm not being a smart a$$ by saying this but Chris you just brought up the the total obvious, not many people even touch their suspension other than a twist to the anti roll bar, or a click on the shock!

But as cope would say I'm just talking $hit because nobody does it so it dont work!

[radialcoupe]

boy am i glad im done with this racin stuff. i thought it was just put it to the wood and go. now ya'll are sayin i have to think?!?! and adjust stuff?? most of you know i cant do two things at once. :D

chris

[ALLMTR50]

>insert my $.02 here<
I think you will see a 180 mph before a 7sec pass
just my guess?

[travers]

i think we are all going to go bankrupt trying. at least in my case i know a little 2v will never do it on radials:rolleyes:

i think i'll have my car ready in a year or 2, i think the more i look at this thread the father behind i make myself get. anyway someone is going to run a 7 second pass this year in my opinion. if not next year for sure, by next year i will get over myself and the dumbass 2v thing and do it myself if one of you all do not. you guys have more experience, seat time and other junk. no need to discuss who is going to do it or not, someone will. if not then we are all not pushing ourselves, sorry this is only my 2nd season running the nmra and only the first season i will try to make almost all races but i see you guys and have read about you all for years, when this year is over drag radial in the nmra i think will be totally different, and next year, wow


btw, anyone have an extra 20-30 g's laying around i could have, i am broke:D

[chip provenza]

All this crap and I just wanted to know who was going to FL.I was just trying to figure out how many people Im going to DRAG DOWN THE TRACK.Thats All.:)

[JG342]

It's been awhile since I've been on here and look at all the fun I'm missing. We will be in FLA for sure can't wait. See you guys there:D :D :D ;)

[reeser]

Man after reading all of this I wish I could go to Flordia. I better start working on my bucket.

[D1-R Stocker]

Chances are if the car is done I still can't go. We are expecting the end of March or first of April. My bride is convinced it will be early March. Anyway, family first. Good luck to those who can go.

[sso0009]

well i went 1.30 60ft 5.19@145mph at Rockingham on a 325-50-15 mickey so the man that goes the 7 second et will get a hand because he is a bad MF

[Cope]

First I didn't type any BS so don't even go there since your the king of stiring the pot!

I posted and said I bought Shobers car and I was going to race, Tim had to be a smart a$$ and bring up the 7 second crap, All I have EVER said IS I thought it was possible end of that story if you want to talk crap that's fine COPE!

Im ready Cope stop by any time and I'll show you!:)

I am pretty good at stirring the pot!! I don't think i'm the king though, IMHO.

You guys (you and Jay) Take pot shots at Tim for no reason. He asks a question and jay calls him stupid. Did anyone call Jay stupid when no one even came close to the 7.94 @ 174?

Yeah you posted that you bought shober's car, good for you.

Maybe Tim thought you guys had a new ET and MPH for 06' thats not going to happen??

No need to stop by the shop I'll be at the track.:rolleyes:

[Bill Wolf]

EVERYBODY GO TO YOUR ROOM'S , AND DON'T COME OUT 'TILL MARCH ! YOU'R ALL GROUNDED :D .


Everyone be careful on the drive to FLA.

See ya' there .

[travers]

this may be worth the drive to florida from maryland just to watch.

nmra drag radial class coming at you, baddest mf's on wheels:D

[Rick 91GT]

Finally working on my bucket again, found some more power in my engine program as well...see you guys mid season.

[Dave Zimmerman]

I am pretty good at stirring the pot!! I don't think I'm the king though, IMHO.

You guys (you and Jay) Take pot shots at Tim for no reason. He asks a question and jay calls him stupid. Did anyone call Jay stupid when no one even came close to the 7.94 @ 174?

Yeah you posted that you bought Shober's car, good for you.

Maybe Tim thought you guys had a new ET and MPH for 06' thats not going to happen??

No need to stop by the shop I'll be at the track.:rolleyes:

Now cope,come on! I am not stupid enough to say I'm going to run 7's, if I doesent happen I'll look really stupid, all I have ever said is I think it is possible! Tony said "under the right conditions he thought it was possible" but you wouldn't get smart with him,don't want to piss off a sponsor now do you cope!

As for what Jay says he's his own man I don't pull his strings, he doesn't pull mine! Tim does a good job of dishing it out also and it's obvious he can hold his own, he's doing quite well and I hope he doesn't have a problem with me expressing what I THINK!

Now I really wish you would stop by the shop because, I KNOW the only thing you have for me is a PIZZA and I have $10.95 for you! Lunch is at 12:30

Remember Cope you said it best "Carma ain't it a *****!"

one more thing leave Hop out of it I'm sure he can speak for himself, just like Jay and Tim, so if he has a problem with ME not JAY I am sure he'll let ME know!

[331cobra]

well i went 1.30 60ft 5.19@145mph at Rockingham on a 325-50-15 mickey so the man that goes the 7 second et will get a hand because he is a bad MF


What did you et in the 1/4 on that pass?

Take Chips back half on his record run which was 2.82 + the front half of the above run and you still are not in the 7's!!!!!!!

[Philip Clemmons]

John,

That was an 1/8 mile race, and he won.........................

My 7.95/179.25 was a 5.202/141.80....................

Hows this for a race................this was the final............at MIR, not Rockingham

Mauro ............... Phil
RT- .076 ............ .063

60- 1.365............. 1.392

330- 3.487 .......... 3.507

5.219/142.03....... 5.248/141.94

1000- 6.708 ......... 6.739

7.962/179.95....... 7.996/179.25


MOV-Mauro .0217!

You'll probably see alot of races like that this year, but not in the 7s..........

[331cobra]

Phil, you needed one of the "one mississippi" lights and you would have taken care of ole Mario at that race!:)

[TA@TCI]

Dave,

Cope and Dave don't have to worry about pissing the sponsor off, it's more like the sponsor worrying about pissing them off when I punish his @ss on the track!:D Just pickin at you hillbilly yankees!

I honestly think that the first one that goes into the 7's needs to be sent to France, put up in a 5 star hotel, given a couple grand to spend, and all the French women that he can stand for a week!:eek:

~TA
tony

[Dave Zimmerman]

France No! maybe vegas:D

It's all in fun!

[CHRIS TUTEN]

here's some #'s from yesterday, 1.24, 3.39, 5.@# @ 13*, 6.711, 8.014, no mph clocks. ooops, that was on old slicks. still to cold to test radials. but the good thing is its quicker than i have ever been with the 85mm. that was also at radial weight. i know it doesnt matter cause it wasnt on bfg's but i'm still happy:D

[Cope]

Now cope,come on! I am not stupid enough to say I'm going to run 7's, if I doesent happen I'll look really stupid, all I have ever said is I think it is possible! Tony said "under the right conditions he thought it was possible" but you wouldn't get smart with him,don't want to piss off a sponsor now do you cope!

As for what Jay says he's his own man I don't pull his strings, he doesn't pull mine! Tim does a good job of dishing it out also and it's obvious he can hold his own, he's doing quite well and I hope he doesn't have a problem with me expressing what I THINK!

Now I really wish you would stop by the shop because, I KNOW the only thing you have for me is a PIZZA and I have $10.95 for you! Lunch is at 12:30

Remember Cope you said it best "Carma ain't it a *****!"

one more thing leave Hop out of it I'm sure he can speak for himself, just like Jay and Tim, so if he has a problem with ME not JAY I am sure he'll let ME know!

You didn't say you were going to run a 7,but you are,were part of that program. So yes in a round about way you said you were going to run a "7".

Jay is his own man and you do not need to speak for him. All i said was he was out of line. He hasn't even replied you have been doing all the talking for him.

What does Karma have to do with this thread?

Leave Hop out of this didn't you say,

Does it matter? last time you were here you were saying how you guy's had something for everyone;)

Who are you referring to here??? Just me, i think not.


As for the pizza thing yes you can have some because i'm sure you have time for it. You will have the car loaded up before second round.

[timneagroup]

I wonder how fast Big Daddy could go with a straight 88mm?

[ChrisEvans]

here's some #'s from yesterday, 1.24, 3.39, 5.@# @ 13*, 6.711, 8.014, no mph clocks. ooops, that was on old slicks. still to cold to test radials. but the good thing is its quicker than i have ever been with the 85mm. that was also at radial weight. i know it doesnt matter cause it wasnt on bfg's but i'm still happy:D
Chris-you are the grudge-racin-est MOFO I have ever seen!!!!!!!!! never-ever have I seen you write a full timeslip or say what your car is running......I like it!:)

[331cobra]

I tell you what will be interesting. FF is allowing staight 88's in renegade this year. I'm anxious to see how deep in the 7's someone can go. I think they have to weigh 3,000lbs.

[ChrisEvans]

while we are posting timeslips-@ MIR(same race Phil & Mauro were at)
60'- 1.421
330'- 3.599
1/8- 5.41@136mph.
1/4- 8.30@169mph. w/F1R on M/t radials...60ft still sucks-IMO!!

T&T one-day borrowing CL's F2
60'-1.610...(tune-up for F2 was waay-off)
330'-3.66
1/8-5.51@138mph.
1/4-8.45@168mph.-w/belt coming off @ 1100ft.
F2's are BAD-ASS!!!:D I think they are equal to those Z(ooops I mean)X-trims!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek: :D

[Dave Zimmerman]

You didn't say you were going to run a 7,but you are,were part of that program. So yes in a round about way you said you were going to run a "7".

Jay is his own man and you do not need to speak for him. All i said was he was out of line. He hasn't even replied you have been doing all the talking for him.

What does Karma have to do with this thread?

Leave Hop out of this didn't you say,



Who are you referring to here??? Just me, i think not.


As for the pizza thing yes you can have some because I'm sure you have time for it. You will have the car loaded up before second round.

Nope cope as usual your wrong, you have me confused with someone else, I have yet to speak for Jay, Never said I would run a 7, but would be happy to part of any car to do it! so in a round about way your just starting your $hit as usual

Yea I said that! I was quoting you when you were here flapping your gums saying "we got something for everyone" Between your childish comments like "get a picture of meTEA BAGGING Phil's car" "get a picture of me tea bagging Trace's car"
I don't know who "we" was and don't care! HeII it could have been your bookie! I know cope you got to drag other people into it! What's new!

What does Karma have to do with this thread? Nothing! What does it have to do with you and me everything!

[CHRIS TUTEN]

Chris-you are the grudge-racin-est MOFO I have ever seen!!!!!!!!! never-ever have I seen you write a full timeslip or say what your car is running......I like it!:)


i actually ran someone last night. the outcome wasnt to my liking. blowing water out of the exhaust doesnt make for a very straight pass.:mad: i'll be back next weekend to get my $$$ back, i guess he can consider that a loan! also, on that 8.01 pass, because the car was going left (front tires we off the ground) i was at 54% throttle for 1.4 sec. a full straight pass will be very interesting. i also forgot to mention that i am down on power, i'll keep how much to myself,hehe. should be a fun and interesting year cause i know with the extra power getting it to the ground is now going to be ALOT harder.

[SHOWTIME]

All this crap and I just wanted to know who was going to FL.I was just trying to figure out how many people Im going to DRAG DOWN THE TRACK.Thats All.:)
Guess your not going since you were a no show to get that chassis certified. Thanks for the phone call from you and your buddy.

[SHOWTIME]

You know a"Little"birdie did tell me-178mph w/the 88?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]
178 that sounds like something John K would say.:D

[SHOWTIME]

A few DINGS that son of a B!t$h is flat on one side. :eek:
I fixed mine in less then a week. Front, back, and the side. No excuses.

[travers]

good night tonight, went 180:D

[SHOWTIME]

Dave,

Cope and Dave don't have to worry about pissing the sponsor off, it's more like the sponsor worrying about pissing them off when I punish his @ss on the track!:D Just pickin at you hillbilly yankees!

I honestly think that the first one that goes into the 7's needs to be sent to France, put up in a 5 star hotel, given a couple grand to spend, and all the French women that he can stand for a week!:eek:

~TA
tony
I cant wait to leave.:D

[NMRA Jason]

Now THIS is the drag radial class that I remember.

To stir up the pot a little bit....I remember having a discussion with Mr. Little, Mr. Head,and Mr. Gutridge at PRI.

I wonder if BD is just faking everyone out and plans to come back in '06?

[travers]

Now THIS is the drag radial class that I remember.

To stir up the pot a little bit....I remember having a discussion with Mr. Little, Mr. Head,and Mr. Gutridge at PRI.

I wonder if BD is just faking everyone out and plans to come back in '06?


last i heard of Dwayne's car it ran 7.40's on bfg's and i have no clue what type of trim that was but the guys at kooks told me that because they had to build new headers to clear his mechanical fuel pump
most cars do not need that type of fuel pump until almost 2000 hp, that is what i have been told

[timneagroup]

its probably becuase he is running the wolfe torque arm!

[travers]

its probably becuase he is running the wolfe torque arm!

me too, think it will take a second of my times also:rolleyes:
but i did get it and it is a nice piece, should work well

[sso0009]

yo how about this 347w/F1R @3275 1/8 mile race 5.26@138mph with a 1.32 60' sent the #1 man home in the final (600+ci chevy w/3stages of gas on a 32-16.5-15 street tire) i was on mickey's. he smoked the tires

[D1-R Stocker]

That sure was a nice picture of you in the IHRA magazine Mauro. Big Smile.:D

[Steenracing.com]

That sure was a nice picture of you in the IHRA magazine Mauro. Big Smile.:D

That was because Rory had just handed him $2500 Cash for the win!!!:D

[sso0009]

thats right:D :D

[Cope]

Nope cope as usual your wrong, you have me confused with someone else, I have yet to speak for Jay, Never said I would run a 7, but would be happy to part of any car to do it! so in a round about way your just starting your $hit as usual

Yea I said that! I was quoting you when you were here flapping your gums saying "we got something for everyone" Between your childish comments like "get a picture of meTEA BAGGING Phil's car" "get a picture of me tea bagging Trace's car"
I don't know who "we" was and don't care! HeII it could have been your bookie! I know cope you got to drag other people into it! What's new!

What does Karma have to do with this thread? Nothing! What does it have to do with you and me everything!

I'm wrong as usual?:confused: starting **** as usual??:confused:

"WE got something for everyone" Now i remember what your talking about.
WE(dave and I) had just got some new HOPPERTECH shirts(NAVY BLUE) made and WE were going to give them away to everyone.. But that was awhile ago and WE don't have anymore left to give away.


As for the Childish "TEA BAGGING" its all in good fun,plus its good luck. Just ask anyone with a car that has been tea bagged , they will tell you they won that round.. SO when you get your car out let me know i'll "TEA BAG" it also because you will need all the luck you can get...;)

DAVE, by the way tried to reply to your PM but your box is full. Empty it out and i'll send it to you..

p.s

If anyone wants to buy a shirt e-mail me and WE will get some more made and bring them to FLA

copec@sbcglobal.net

[warpgt]

If anyone wants to buy a shirt e-mail me and WE will get some more made and bring them to FLA

copec@sbcglobal.net[/QUOTE]

What does the T-shirt say this year?

-Our Blower is twice the size of yours???:rolleyes:

[timneagroup]

are the blower guys arguing with each other?....I thought you all stuck together.

Get ready for the Delta 88

[HOP]

What does the T-shirt say this year?

-Our Blower is twice the size of yours???:rolleyes:

A statement like that kind of makes you wonder who was crying to Prochager about the new Vortech Piece.

By the way no-one from the Vortech camp cries when Procharger comes up with a "new f1r" for some teams to try! I wonder if thats approved?

[warpgt]

A statement like that kind of makes you wonder who was crying to Prochager about the new Vortech Piece.

By the way no-one from the Vortech camp cries when Procharger comes up with a "new f1r" for some teams to try! I wonder if thats approved?


That's funny -That statement made me think I was joking around! Wow that hit a sore spot!

P.S. Does that thing even fit under your hood?:D

By the way- Like they say "Size doesn't Matter"!

[HOP]

That's funny -That statement made me think I was joking around! Wow that hit a sore spot!



No sore spot, just the facts!

[warpgt]

are the blower guys arguing with each other?....I thought you all stuck together.

Get ready for the Delta 88


We all get along-as far as I know! Now you Turbo guys are a whole different story!:D

[Joe Shober1]

I fixed mine in less then a week. Front, back, and the side. No excuses.


No excuses here, hell the car was crashed at 8 pm and by 4:30 Am the next morning I was driving it down Hall road in Mich. went a mid 9 pass on motor that very next day, but I had alot of good help to fix it that fast, the Zimmermans and all the guys at Team Z stayed up all night to fix it. And as of today the car is at sullivans in Mich getting all redone and ready for the new race year.

[SwillRacer]

Nope cope as usual your wrong, you have me confused with someone else, I have yet to speak for Jay, Never said I would run a 7, but would be happy to part of any car to do it! so in a round about way your just starting your $hit as usual

Yea I said that! I was quoting you when you were here flapping your gums saying "we got something for everyone" Between your childish comments like "get a picture of meTEA BAGGING Phil's car" "get a picture of me tea bagging Trace's car"
I don't know who "we" was and don't care! HeII it could have been your bookie! I know cope you got to drag other people into it! What's new!

What does Karma have to do with this thread? Nothing! What does it have to do with you and me everything!

My god, this is what Renegade used to be like. Looks like the Kurgan brought the drama over with him!!

Dave- shouldn't you be busy building us our 25.5 chassis instead of trash talking on the message board? Oh wait, we forgot to ask you to build one for us....damn!!:D

I'm gonna go start some sh!t in the REN section....

[Dave Zimmerman]

My god, this is what Renegade used to be like. Looks like the Kurgan brought the drama over with him!!

Dave- shouldn't you be busy building us our 25.5 chassis instead of trash talking on the message board? Oh wait, we forgot to ask you to build one for us....damn!!:D

I'm gonna go start some sh!t in the REN section....

It's almost done just waiting on axels, you should be able to pick it up this weekend we have several on the shelf:D

[Silver35thGt]

I just change my oil,adjusted my valves and installed a fresh set of tires,,,Oh yea I waxed my car,,,I figure thats all I need to go out first round anyways...But you never know...Look forward to meeting all you guys and puting names with faces..Ill be the idiot running the carb blow thru vortech,x,xx,z, trim blower...

[swilldup]

If anyone wants to buy a shirt e-mail me and WE will get some more made and bring them to FLA

copec@sbcglobal.net
Cope....i want one......XL.....just let me know how much..

[ChrisEvans]

I just change my oil,adjusted my valves and installed a fresh set of tires,,,Oh yea I waxed my car,,,I figure thats all I need to go out first round anyways...But you never know...Look forward to meeting all you guys and puting names with faces..Ill be the idiot running the carb blow thru vortech,x,xx,z, trim blower...
Hey whats wrong with Blow-thru?:D

[Silver35thGt]

Hey whats wrong with Blow-thru?:D

Dont you know by now it wont work..ROFLMAO,,Hope to meet ya in bradenton,,Maybo go out for some beers on Friday nite.....LAta,Roger

[Jay Allen]

You guys (you and Jay) Take pot shots at Tim for no reason.
Cope, if you are naive enough to think the following was *no reason*, then so be it. You are entitled to your opinion.
Hey Jay, not to bust your chops or anything, but is this the year and the car that will go 7's in NMRA trim?
Even Chip right after tim's post posted, "trouble maker".
He asks a question and jay calls him stupid.
Cope, if you are going to insinuate that tim meant NOTHING by his above post, then please read MY post verbatum as well. Here it is, unedited.
I was just telling Dave today that just when you think you have seen it all.......The pinacle of stupidity.......This post comes along.

Where do I say that *tim* is stupid? I said, "This post comes along". And when I refer to the "pinacle of stupidity", that is was what I referred to when I was speaking with Dave BEFORE the post went up. ie, it had ZERO to do with ANYTHING on this board. What happens on THIS board or more correctly said, D/R has little affect on my life. Now maybe you all are different and that's YOUR business.

You know, Dave is his own person. He speaks for himself and says whatever he wants. I say what I want as well. To assume that we have a conspriacy going against you (plural, NOT singular) is, well, naive. You have an agenda and that's cool. At some point and time, we ALL do. However I would ask that you leave me out of your attacks. If I spout off about you, directly, then here you go, 1-734-730-2574. Call me. We can work it out. But unless my remedial 2nd grade reading comprehension is phucked up, I don't remember saying anything about you Cope. I would think that tim can speak for himself, right?

Now on this 7 second junk. Do I think its is possible? Yes. Now see what *I* wrote? *I* think, not Dave. Back when low 8's were the norm in SSO, Spetter came along and went 7's at Stanton. When Pro 5.0 was a low 8 second class, Les Baer went deep into the 7's. I ran 9.00's when 9.90's was fast N/A. Cope, its all about being a pioneer. Trying new stuff. Being *Innovative*. Get outside the box. But if you don't know what "outside the box" is, then how do you know when you are "outside the box"? If you do what everyone else does, then you are going to run like everyone else does.

And let me ask you a question. What does what *I* think is possible in D/R affect you? If you think its not possible, that's cool. I have my reasons on why I think a 7 is possible. I see MANY things that have not even been tried , yet. Guys are looking in the wrong place for ET.

I am really busy. Coming back here time & time again and getting into a p*ss*ng match is something I really don't have the time nor the energy to do. If you have something to say to me, please call me. If I had your number, I would have called you. You have your opinion, and that's cool. I have mine as well. Just leave it at that and move on. I have FAR better things to do.......

Thanks.