timing and plug reading

[brothern2o]

Curious about what I am reading on my plugs. I have a 400" highport motor, 14:1, two stage NX plate, etc...

I made a pass and click it off at the 330' due to green track and I made some modifications to plate to get some more fuel to corner plugs. I pulled plugs and they were actually there it was great but I noticed that they seemed to put a timing line almost at the end of the ground strap.

I run ngk-r5671a-9 and was running vp-c16. I launched with 22 degrees of timing and pulled out another 8 with the msd.

So my question is do I need to go to 10's or did I not put enough of a pass on the plug to get an actual reading. I only had a 200 shot in the plate and was running an extremely conservative tune. I just can't believe my motor would want even less timing. Thanks for any help.

[86sspcoupe]

I run 36 degrees NA and pull out 10 on a 275 shot off a plate and that is still very safe according to my plugs.ngk #8.Just curious why you run so little timing?

[arena]

Same here I ran the same setup with 36* N/A and pulled 14* with 400shot

[brothern2o]

I would like to know myself but according to plug reading 101 my plugs are telling me that is what the motor wants. I am a little confused I was able to run a 400 shot with a total of about 22 maybe 20. The only reason I did 22 and pulled out another 8 was because I forgot to download a program for my laptop so it would link with the msd so I just figured that if the msd pulled nothing out at 22 I would be safe. Maybe I am just reading the plug wrong I guess I may start putting timing back in as I can put more passes on the car. I thought maybe I had done something wrong as I ate a few plugs due to timing last year and it gets old quick.

[jspeed]

Any update on your tune up?
Did you figure out your timing issues?

Were you running the setup to lean?

[brothern2o]

I don't think I know how to read a plug. I actually put more timing in the damn thing and the car was fine I think I am at 24 degrees total with a 200 shot. I also added some more fuel and found out I was actually c12 not the c16 I thought I was running. Now I got a brand new plate from NX and have the car apart to add through floor subframe connectors and a parachute. So I was going to go out this weekend but I will probably go motorsport on sunday and bag racing till the following weekend. Thanks John.

[jspeed]

Cool, good luck with the car in the future.

Bye the way- if your going to the ford motorsport nats in Reading, go Saturday. Did you see the temps for Sunday? It going to be 98+ degrees!

Is it just me or does the first hot weekend we get every year hit us the same time as maple grove every year?

[brothern2o]

unfortunately I am a dirtball car sales man and have to work sat. will go sunday and try to learn something. Worst part is I only work 5 minutes from the grove. Thanks John

[map19888]

im just curious was there something wrong with the 2 stage plate you were runing

[brothern2o]

not at all I was talking with John Philips @ NX and he was helping out with getting the dist. right then he just offered to give me a crazy deal on this new plate that can spray more hp...I guess you could say he had me at hello.

[saleen_n_around]

not at all I was talking with John Philips @ NX and he was helping out .......I guess you could say he had me at hello.\

Jon is good people.

Here give this a try for some more tips.

Reading nitrous plugs-CLICKY (http://www.yellowbullet.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7255)